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6. Re: Frontier 5 gig Aug 26, 2008, 17:49 dubfanatic

 
    There's that big hoohah giong on still (i think?) over forcing cable companies to provide ala carte programming (No, I DON'T WANT THE FUCKING STYLE NETWORK).
Trust me, even if they had to do "a la carte" programming they'd find a way to make it worthless. My phone company, for example, has "a la carte" IPTV, but they still include The Christian Channel in the "essentials" package. I can't figure out why they think that's a good idea, considering this is the least religious city in North America.
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5. Re: Frontier 5 gig Aug 26, 2008, 13:48 PHJF

 

 There's only one clear solution:

NATIONALIZE TELECOMMUNICATIONS!

But seriously, some aspects (like cell phones) are nothing but vile leeches upon the free market, and consumers are too stupid to do anything about it. There's that big hoohah giong on still (i think?) over forcing cable companies to provide ala carte programming (No, I DON'T WANT THE FUCKING STYLE NETWORK). At this point it couldn't get any worse if nationalized.
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4. Re: Frontier 5 gig Aug 26, 2008, 11:35 NKD

 

 Good post Parallax. There's definitely something coming. Digital distribution and increasingly strict ISP caps are two speeding trains heading for each other down the same track. There are a few results that could happen:

1) Caps are removed, but ISP rates double or triple. This could be devastating, but people require the internet, so they could get away with it. Blame it on oil prices.
2) Digital distribution businesses such as Steam begin to falter because customers can no longer afford to spend that much bandwidth.
3) Caps are removed but we go back to exceedingly low speed caps, streaming content delivery dies.

There are several other possible outcomes, I can't really think of any that are positive. ISPs simply will not spend the money required to upgrade their infrastructure.
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3. Re: Frontier 5 gig Aug 26, 2008, 11:19 Parallax Abstraction

 

 A lot of us here in Canada are fighting a similar battle with Bell Canada, who basically has a monopoly over the phone network in the eastern half of the country. There are third party DSL providers (I use one of the best here) but they are all forced to rent Bell's lines for their service. Recently, Bell implemented bandwidth throttling on BitTorrent connections and a download cap (a much higher 50GB though) on its own Sympatico service. Shortly after that, they forced the throttling on all third party ISPs and have announced plans to force the caps on them as well. This in spite of the fact that the third parties only use Bell's phone lines, they buy all their actual bandwidth elsewhere. This issue is currently in the hands of our version of the FCC but they are famous for always giving Bell Canada what they want so we don't expect miracles. If ISPs in North America keep doing this, we're going to be on optical discs a lot longer than people think.
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2. Re: Frontier 5 gig Aug 26, 2008, 08:21 xXBatmanXx

 
    For the AoC preview event, I would have exceeded their limit by 20 gigs. Again, completely legitimate use. I sure hope people who have Frontier have another choice, because Frontier can pretty much piss off in my book.
That was the one I was thinking about as well.....what a crock of shit.

Would render Steam (and any other digital download service) useless.

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1. Frontier 5 gig Aug 26, 2008, 00:58 Pumas

 

 I doubled that in the last 2 days downloading the WAR open beta client. Yeah...a completely legit program downloaded at about 100 kb/s over 2 days. 100 kb/s is nothing (especially with Comcast since I am supposed to be permitted "up to 10 mb/s" under contract). So under that structure, I would have been overcharged for NOT consuming massive amounts of bandwidth....just downloading alot over a long period of time.

For the AoC preview event, I would have exceeded their limit by 20 gigs. Again, completely legitimate use. I sure hope people who have Frontier have another choice, because Frontier can pretty much piss off in my book.

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