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GamePolitics reports New York State Governor David Paterson has signed into
law a bill to "ensure the State will explore the negative effects of violent
video games." Of course it would seem that whatever exploration is involved has
been done already, as they don't seem to grant the possibility that they
would find positive effects. The law apparently
has no real effect, so the ESA may not choose to challenge this in court.
TV Debate on New York Video Game Law offers further discussion of all this.
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Jul 23, 2008, 09:23 |
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The has to be some paid lobbyists behind the scenes pushing this crap on legislators because otherwise it makes no sense.
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Jul 23, 2008, 01:03 |
DrEvil |
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They would claim that the 'interactive nature of video games' is how they are different, and why they are more influential.
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Jul 23, 2008, 00:54 |
Trainwreck |
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<i>So, unless your comment is preemptive, the notion of taking a few deep breaths is simply condescending as is the comment, "God-given right to excessively violent video games".</i>
This is Blues News, isn't it? While it's not quite as bad as Joystiq or somewhere like that, I expect a lot of stupid reactionary arguments like, "OMG I'M NOT A SERIAL KILAR SO VIDEO GAMES ARE ALWAYS GOOD!!1"
The reason I included the comment "God-given right to excessively violent video games" is because it is a given that at some point someone's going to claim that they're about to steal the right to buy video games.
<i>And how is this any different from TV, movies, or rap music? None of which face near the same scrutiny and are 100 times worse.</i>
Well, it's interactive, so that alone makes it quite different. It's on another level. Of course, I'm not defending this stupid bill, but whatever.
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Jul 23, 2008, 00:40 |
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And how is this any different from TV, movies, or rap music? None of which face near the same scrutiny and are 100 times worse.
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Jul 23, 2008, 00:17 |
Pumas |
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A good example, Trainwreck, (though not glaring) of why I am personally disenchanted with the conservative mindset.
It's a matter of arrogance and pretentiousness. No one was anything less than calm prior to your own post. So, unless your comment is preemptive, the notion of taking a few deep breaths is simply condescending as is the comment, "God-given right to excessively violent video games".
I'm not completely familiar with your educational background and expertise, but I'm willing to bet that you're not qualified to answer either of the questions you posed. The comment that "we do not fully understand" the effect of video game violence on mental development is again pretentious. You're never going to fully understand those effects and neither am I because we, as laymen, will only ever understand what others who have actually done the scientific research will tell us. Even then, the average layman will receive that information through a tertiary source; aka, scientific publication to news agency to news broadcast. And depending on the beliefs of those intermediaries it has been shown in the past that they are willing to put their own biased spin on the actual report to improve ratings.
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Jul 22, 2008, 23:58 |
DrEvil |
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And the answers are.
1. No significant effects have been demonstrated.
2. Yes
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Jul 22, 2008, 23:44 |
Trainwreck |
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Video game discussion boards and conservative forums are the two worst places to find intelligent discussion on this matter. I say that as both an avid video gamer and someone who generally leans conservative.
First of all, I'd like everyone to take a few deep breaths. This law will not deprive New York gamers of their God-given right to excessively violent video games. It's merely looking into the negative effects of said games. Two questions immediately come to mind:
1. Are there negative effects associated with violent video games?
2. Is this wasteful government spending?
The answer to both questions, of course, is yes. An unhealthy interest in violent video games can be an indicator for future violence, but it is only one of very many factors, many of which we do not fully understand. Also, this arena is the role of neither the state nor federal governments; not to mention the gaming industry is already adequately self-regulated vis-a-vis a fairly accurate rating system.
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Jul 22, 2008, 23:02 |
Halo |
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The only negative effects of games are... ya know when a bunch of good games come out at once and you end up spending ~$100 on them.
Or when you're trying to finish a long quest, and right when you think it's over there's a plot twist and you keep playing trying to finish the quest before the sun comes up.
Oh when your playing some competitive pub games and your team is absolute shite and you throw your mouse and it hits your significant other in the face, and she's all "Why do you beat me?!?!" Then you have to explain to her that she's being unsupportive and you're really in love with her sister and she breaks down in tears. So you have to help her stop crying, BUT meanwhile you get kickbanned for being AFK for 6 hours and it was a really good server and..... ya know what never mind.
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Jul 22, 2008, 21:14 |
PropheT |
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So what's the date in Vegas right now for betting on when it's ruled unconstitutional?
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